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oldjoe5 (November 9th, 2008 @ 9:28 pm)

They don't even have threaten those who oppose them. It is well known that their media people will be used to destroy any major politician who speaks out, along with moving vast amounts of money to prevent his or her re-election. Another big problem is how much influence they have in the judiciary. When Israel literally bulldozed American citizen Rachel Corrie, all attempts to obtain any justice legally were thrown out of court and these dismissals were upheld upon appeal. It seems hopeless

JohnnyRock2000 (November 9th, 2008 @ 6:21 pm)

Probably 90% of their actions are within the current law. I believe that their motivations are for Israel at any cost...which means at any American cost. They would indeed sacrifice American lives, economy, reputation to further Israels goals. If one could prove a conspiracy of manipulated documents, lies etc. and could actually prove fraud against the American people, but how is that done, when they have such power? Retiring politicians should disclose their experiences.

oldjoe5 (November 9th, 2008 @ 2:19 pm)

There clearly were a lot more "tragic exceptions" than there were strikes on Hezzbollah. Surely you know this?

oldjoe5 (November 9th, 2008 @ 2:17 pm)

You have to think AIPAC and the Lobby is going well beyond legalized bribery. They can use the mass media to attack those who don't play ball -- I believe this is called blackmail and/or extortion

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adrianucker (August 28th, 2008 @ 8:26 am)

Johnny, AIPAC is indeed an efficient lobby group, and I also agree some of their interests are selfish, perhaps even driven by paranoia. But I would disagree with the idea that their campaign contributions define who is elected and who is not. That seems to be impossible for ANY single lobby group to achieve.

JohnnyRock2000 (August 27th, 2008 @ 7:59 pm)

AIPAC, when challanged denies everything. It is incredible, but the control is exercised way in the background by educating politicians, bringing them to Israel and making clear Israeli views and goals. AIPAC directs huge amounts of Jewish interest money to the appropriate candidates. If you don't vocally support Israel...your opponent will get jewish campaign funds and you won't. The result? You won't get elected. Because the money does not come directly from AIPAC, there is deniability.

adrianucker (August 26th, 2008 @ 12:20 pm)

Lonewolf, you obviously didn't read the Talmud and is motivated by anti-Semitism. This goes beyond being anti-Israel.You are simply racist. Others in this forum disagree with me without having to appeal to your repugnant motives.

lonewolf1369 (August 26th, 2008 @ 7:45 am)

how could they be 'tragic exceptions' when the UN lookout was on its own and Israel precisely knew where it was. They were also precision guided missiles. Besides, by looking in the Talmud we can see where all this destruction is coming from. Judaism's holiest book explicitly states hate against Christians, gentiles, and non-Jews and says killing and stealing from them is okay. IDF soldiers ask rabbis how they should deal with civilians during war!!! The Talmud is racist and self-worshipping

adrianucker (August 25th, 2008 @ 4:51 pm)

RepublicanStones, Israel's strategy was to target structures that served Hezbollah. Bombing a UN headquarter and other mistakes were tragic exceptions. Israel could not have conceived to gain with that. And in spite of the south being an almost autonomous Hesbollah region, Hezbollah has premisses and operations in the rest of Lebanon, and amunition and arms come through ports, airports and roads all over Lebanon. In fighting Hezbollah, Lebanon's suffering was not desirable, it was unavoidable.